From: trljim@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JIM SONNENMEIER) Newsgroups: rec.kites Subject: Re: plotfoil Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:13:00 EST Organization: University at Buffalo In article <18149@umd5.umd.edu>, jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes... > >Quite a while ago somebody posted a postscript program to plot >airfoils. A friend of mine needs this program, and I didn't save it, >silly me. > >If anyone could either mail it to me or point me to an appropriate >FTP site, I would greatly appreciate it. > >Thanks, > >Jeff >-- ftp site for plotfoil .... bigwig.geology.indiana.edu (129.79.146.87) in directory /models/airfoil/plotfoil Jim = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll) Newsgroups: rec.kites Subject: airfoil programs via archie Message-ID: <1993Jan28.193716.23914@ohm.york.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 14:37:16 EST Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK Hello all following various discussions about airfoil plotting programs, I append a list from the `archie' ftp search program. On my site at least, airf2_01.zoo is currently available in newsgroup comp.binaries.ibm.pc cheers john N Host plaza.aarnet.edu.au (139.130.4.6) Last updated 04:24 24 Jan 1993 Location: /micros/pc/garbo/pc/plot FILE r--r--r-- 93765 Jul 22 1992 airf2_01.zip Host isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (130.54.20.1) Last updated 04:31 18 Jan 1993 Location: /mirrors/simtel20.msdos/plot FILE rw-rw-r-- 93498 Aug 5 05:00 airf2_01.zip Host gatekeeper.dec.com (16.1.0.2) Last updated 03:09 17 Jan 1993 Location: /.2/micro/msdos/simtel20/plot FILE r--r--r-- 93498 Aug 4 09:00 airf2_01.zip Host ee.utah.edu (128.110.8.42) Last updated 03:11 14 Jan 1993 Location: /hp28 FILE rw-r--r-- 9091 Mar 25 1990 airfoil Host gmuvax2.gmu.edu (129.174.1.8) Last updated 03:54 25 Dec 1992 Location: /hp28 FILE rw-r--r-- 9091 Nov 21 1989 airfoil Host krynn.efd.lth.se (130.235.48.11) Last updated 04:02 5 Dec 1992 Location: /pub/hp-calc/educalc/horn_disk_3/horn3 FILE rwxrwxr-x 2139 Jun 3 1992 airfoil Host src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.2.1) Last updated 06:18 28 Jan 1993 Location: /computing/systems/handhelds/hp48/misc FILE r--r--r-- 5697 Apr 12 1991 airfoil.Z Host ftp.luth.se (130.240.18.3) Last updated 05:36 17 Jan 1993 Location: /pub/misc/hp48/misc FILE rw-r--r-- 5697 Nov 6 17:26 airfoil.Z Host faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (131.188.1.43) Last updated 16:13 25 Oct 1992 Location: /mounts/epix/iwiftp/public/portal/hp28 FILE rw-r--r-- 4559 Mar 22 1990 airfoil.Z Host relay.iunet.it (130.251.1.17) Last updated 07:47 21 Oct 1992 Location: /disk0/hp/hp28s FILE rwxrwxr-x 4559 Dec 31 18:18 airfoil.Z Host cnam.cnam.fr (163.173.128.6) Last updated 04:00 13 Jan 1993 Location: /pub/Archives/comp.archives/auto/rec.models.rc FILE rw-r--r-- 1540 Dec 16 1991 airfoil-plotting-program-q-s Host cs.dal.ca (129.173.4.5) Last updated 03:45 13 Jan 1993 Location: /pub/comp.archives/rec.models.rc FILE r--r--r-- 1265 Dec 8 1991 airfoil-plotting-program-q-s Host srawgw.sra.co.jp (133.137.4.3) Last updated 03:08 21 Nov 1992 Location: /.a/sraFTP2b/arch/arch/comp.archives/auto/rec.models.rc FILE rw-r--r-- 1541 Dec 8 1991 airfoil-plotting-program-q-s Host wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) Last updated 04:03 10 Jan 1993 Location: /systems/hp48sx/misc FILE rw-rw-r-- 10020 Nov 7 1990 airfoil.48 ------- -- john nicoll (jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk) Department of Electronics University of York Heslington YORK YO1 5DD U.K Tel +44 (904) 433221 Fax +44 (904) 432335 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: trljim@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JIM SONNENMEIER) Newsgroups: rec.kites Subject: Re: plotfoil Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 20:39:00 EST Organization: University at Buffalo In article <18232@umd5.umd.edu>, jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes... >The airfoil sections in the Velthuizen book are for Flexifoil/Peel type >kites, and I don't know how well they'd apply to your sort of usage. > >I know far too little about airfoils to have any idea how one would go >about picking a suitable shape! > >Jeff > maybe this would help?? The following is a list of some useful references for those who are interested the aerodynamic data of low reynolds number airfoils. The list is by no means exhaustive but it represents a good cross-section of the available data. If you need still further information, the references listed in the below works will lead you where you will want to go. Jim Sonnenmeier (1) Model Aircraft Aerodynamics, 2nd. ed., 1987. Martin Simons Argus Books, London England ISBN 085-242-195-0 Remark: Very good book for those interested on the details of how and why models fly. It is written as non-technical as possible. Be sure to get the 2nd. ed. as it contains much aerodynamic data on many airfoils in the appendix. Eppler, Selig, Wortman, NACA etc... Available from Zenith Aviation Books. (2) Model-Technik-Berater MTB 1/2 (single volume), 1986 Eppler-Profile (Eppler airfoil polars) Werner Thies Verlag fur Technik u. Handwerk, Baden-Baden, West Germany ISBN 3-88180-100-6 Remark: Complete Eppler model airfoils. (3) Model-Technik-Berater MTB 17, 1987 Modellflug-Profilesammlung (Model airplane airfoil catalog) Hans-Walter Bender Verlag fur Technik u. Handwerk, Baden-Baden, West Germany ISBN 3-88180-117-0 Remark: General catalog. Provides coordinates for MANY airfoils. Wortman, Pfenniger, Gottingen etc... (4) ProfilePolaren Fur den Modellflug (Model airfoil polars), 1980 Windkanalmessungen an Profile im Kritischen Reynoldszahlbereich (Wind tunnel measurements of airfoils at critical Re #'s) Dieter Althaus Institut Fur Aerodynamik u. Gasdynamik der Universitat Stuttgart Neckar-Verlag, Postfach 1820, 7730 Villingen-Schwenningen, W. Germany Remark: Windtunnel data on many airfoils. Wortman, Eppler, NACA, Gottingen, Clark Y etc... 10000 < Re < 1000000. (5) ProfilePolaren Fur den Modellflug, Band 2 (Book 2), 1985 Dieter Althaus Institut Fur Aerodynamik u. Gasdynamik der Universitat Stuttgart Neckar-Verlag, Postfach 1820, 7730 Villingen-Schwenningen, W. Germany Remark: More windtunnel data. Some Eppler, Selig, Quabeck and many free flight airfoils, Bob White, Hofs ss Espada etc... (6) Selig, Michael,"The Design of Airfoils at Low Reynolds Numbers", Soar Tech #3, 1984, published by Herk Stokely, 1504 Horseshoe Circle, Virgina Beach, VA 23451. Remark: Landmark paper on the design of airfoils at low Re #'s. Contains most of the published Selig airfoils. (7) Soar Tech, Vol 1-7, Herk Stokely ed. (above) Remark: Highly recommended series that has articles and papers by various authors on many different airfoils (Rolf Girsberger, Martin Simons, Hewitt Phillips, Michael Selig etc...) as well as articles on MANY other subjects, stability and control, design, analysis etc... (7a) Selig, M.S., Donovan, J.F., Fraser, D.B.,"Airfoils at Low Speeds (Soar Tech Vol 8)", Herk Stokely, publisher, address above. Remark: The final results of the Selig/Donovan Princeton Wind Tunnel tests of airfoils at low speeds. A very complete volume, a must for serious low speed aerodynamicists. (8) Proceedings M.A.R.C.S. National Sailplane Symposium, "The Paths of Future Flight", years; 1983, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88. published by the Madison Area Radio Control Society. Al Scidmore ed. available from Mr. Walt Seabourg, 1517 Forest Glen Rd., Oregon, WI 53575. Remark: Again an excellent resource for many subjects, airfoils, and almost any other aspect of flying model sailplanes. (9) Proceedings of the Conference on Low Reynolds Number Airfoil Aerodynamics. held at Notre Dame Univ., June 1985. Thomas Mueller ed. UNDAS-CP-77B123 Dr. T. Mueller Dept. Aero and Mech. Eng. Univ. Notre Dame Notre Dame, IN 46556 Remark: 1st. of 2 conferences held on the subject of low Re # airfoils. many papers by all of the experts in the field. Eppler, Somers, Selig, Leibeck, Mueller, H.K. Cheng, Morkovin etc... (10) Proceedings of the International Conference on Aerodynamics at Low Reynolds Numbers. held at The Royal Aeronautical Society, London, Oct. 1986. published by the Royal Aeronautical Society, 4 Hamilton Place, London W1, England. Remark: 2nd. of the international conferences on this exciting/growing subject. Authors too numerous to mention. EXCELLENT. (10a) Proceedings of the Third International Conference on Aerodynamics at Low Reynolds Numbers. Held at Notre Dame University, June 5-7, 1989. Avaiable from Springer Verlag as LCN54 Low Reynolds Number Aerodynamics, ed by Thomas Mueller. ISBN: 518843. (see below) Low Reynolds number aerodynamics : proceedings of the conference, Notre Dame, Indiana, USA, 5-7 June 1989 / T.J. Mueller, editor. -- Berlin ; New York : Springer-Verlag, c1989. v, 446 p. : ill. ; 25 cm. -- (Lecture notes in engineering ; 54) "Papers presented at the Conference on Low Reynolds Number Aerodynamics, held June 4-7, 1989 at the University of Notre Dame"--Pref. Includes bibliographical references. (11) Lissaman, P.B.S.,"Low-Reynolds-Number Airfoils", Ann. Rev. Fluid Mech., 15, p.223-239, 1983. (12) Pfenniger, W., Vemuru, C.S., Mangalam, S., Evangelista, R., "Design of Low Reynolds Number Airfoils-II", AIAA 88-3764-CP. (13) Phillips, W.H.,"Studies of Friction Drag and Pressure Drag of Airfoils using the Eppler Program", SAE Paper No 881396. (14) Eppler, R., Somers, D.,"A Computer Program for the Design and Analysis of Low Speed Airfoils", NASA TM-80210, 1980. (15) Maughmer, M., Somers, D.,"Design and Experimental Results for a High Altitude, Long Endurance Airfoil", AIAA J. Aircraft, 26, No.2, Feb. 1989. (AIAA 87-2554). (16) Somers, D.,"Design and Experimental Results for a Natural-Laminar-Flow Airfoil for General Aviation Applications", NASA TP-1861, 1981. (17) Somers, D.,"Design and Experimental Results for a Flapped Natural- Laminar-Flow Airfoil for General Aviation Applications", NASA TP-1865, 1981. (18) Eppler, Richard., Airfoil design and data -- Berlin ; New York : Springer-Verlag, c1990. viii, 562 p. : ill. ; 25 cm. Transparency in pocket. Includes bibliographical references (p. [559]-562). (19) Althaus, Dieter, Wortmann, Franz Xaver . -- Stuttgarter Profilkatalog Braunschweig : F. Vieweg, 1981- v. : chiefly ill. ; 31 cm. Text in English and German. Vol. 1 is a new ed. of a publication of the Institut fur Aerodynamik und Gasdynamik of Universitat Stuttgart first issued in 1972 in German. Includes bibliographical references. Contents: 1. Messergebnisse aus dem Laminarwindkanal des Instituts fur Aerodynamik und Gasdynamik der Universitat Stuttgart. (20) Miley, S.J.,"A Catalog of Low Reynolds Number Airfoil Data for Wind Turbine Applications". RFP-3387 VC-60, Rockwell International Feb. 1982. Us Dept. of Energy, Wind Energy Technology Division, Federal Wind Energy Program. Pope, Alan, 1913- Basic wing and airfoil theory. 1st ed. New York, McGraw-Hill, 1951. xviii, 294 p. illus. 24 cm. Includes bibliographies. MTB 3 'NACA-Profile', published by Verlag fuer Technik und Handwerk, Baden-Baden, Germany, ISBN 3-88180-103-0, last updated in 1990, which contains coordinates and calculated polars for about 30 NACA 4-series, 6-series and GA(W)-1 and GA(W)-2. The booklet is laid out similar to the MTB 1/2, some (german) text, velocity distributions of all airfoils, drag polars and plots in various sizes. It is aimed at modellers, not for the aerodynamics specialist. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Newsgroups: rec.kites From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) Subject: Re: plotfoil Message-ID: Organization: Indiana University Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 16:54:00 EST Plotfoil? If you mean Shamim Zvonko Mohammed's program you can ftp it off bigwig.geology.indiana.edu (129.29.146.87). Don't see how it would be of use; the included airfoil curves are mostly model sailpkplane sections (eg. Eppler and Selig). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iskandar Taib | The only thing worse than Peach ala Internet: NTAIB@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU | Frog is Frog ala Peach Bitnet: NTAIB@IUBACS !